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You’re mid-conversation and suddenly hit dead air. You scramble for the next thing to say, and the whole interaction feels forced. The FOOFAAE acronym breaks down the seven types of contributions that maintain conversation flow and keep things engaging naturally. Learn how each element works, why some conversations die while others thrive, understand the conversation dynamics at play, and how to stay present without overthinking every exchange.
⏱ CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
2:15 Topic Name Revisited
5:43 Autobiographical Comments
6:39 Conversational Lifeboat
8:29 Adjusting for Flow
10:52 Flexibility in Communication
17:01 Open-Ended Questions
19:16 Leading Statements Dynamics
23:20 Specific Questions Benefits
In this episode, Patrick King dives into the art of keeping a conversation flowing smoothly with tips on how to maintain that perfect conversation flow and stay present in every interaction. From small talk to deeper discussions, learn FOOFAAE and other flexible conversation techniques to keep your chats engaging and dynamic—perfect for anyone looking to improve their social skills and conversation dynamics.
You ask someone how their weekend was.
They say, good.
Chill.
You know.
And now it’s just quiet.
So you both reach for the weather.
This happens to genuinely likeable, interesting people all the time.
It’s not that you have nothing to say.
It’s that you’re only reaching for one type of thing to say.
And there’s a fix for that.
And it turns out Patrick King has written about it from two completely different angles.
This episode pulls from two of his books, Small Talk That Doesn’t Suck, gives you tools for varying what you contribute.
Improve your conversations, which compares great conversation to improv comedy, gives you three more tools for how you ask, listen, and stay loose when things don’t go to plan.
King’s point is that flow isn’t magic, it’s variety.
Bad small talk usually isn’t bad because the topic’s boring.
It’s because both people keep making the same kind of comment over and over.
He’s built an acronym to fix that, and here’s how he talks about it.
In the moment, a well flowing conversation can feel almost magical.
And it’s hard to pinpoint exactly why things are clicking so well.
Luckily, we have a few tools to help us deliberately create this feeling of flow.
One of these tools is the Fouffet acronym.
It offers us a structured approach for making sure that we are including plenty of varied elements in our conversation.
These elements include feelings, observations, opinions, facts, action statements, autobiographical elements, and events.
Exceptional conversationalists seamlessly integrate these categories, while poor conversationalists may rely too heavily on a few.
Again, we see the same principle emerge.
It’s not that any one element is good or bad.
Rather, what matters is the fluidity with which we’re able to move between different elements.
Using the acronym is easy.
The next time you’re in a conversation, realize that at any moment, you are at liberty to choose the kind of contribution you make.
And in doing so, steer the tone and direction of that conversation.
Let’s say you’re in a small talk situation with someone and chatting about their dog.
Using foofy, you can choose between the following.
Feeling.
I absolutely love your dog.
Observation.
You have such a well-behaved dog.
Opinion.
I think pugs are the best kind of small dog breed.
Fact.
I was reading that pugs are usually.
Action statement.
I want to adopt a dog like that.
autobiographical.
My brother has a pug too.
Event.
Did you hear Frank just adopted a dog last month?
In the above example, the speaker has shared their own opinions, observations, etc.
You can also use this framework however to guide the questions you ask or shape the comment you make about their opinions, feelings, and so on.
Let’s take a look at another example where you may focus more on the other person.
Let’s say you meet a stranger at a party and they start telling you how they’ve just sold their house and will be, hopefully, moving into a new one the following month.
Feeling.
Wow.
I’m guessing you’re feeling pretty relieved to be done with the whole process.
Observation.
Two months?
That seems like a quick turnaround.
Opinion.
How did you find your realtor, by the way?
Fact.
Apparently the average house price in that area has gone up 20% in the last year.
Action statement.
So what’s next for you guys?
autobiographical.
Is this your first big house move?
Event?
I heard they’re putting new street lamps on that road.
Feeling comments are simply anything to do with your preferences, feelings, expectations, hopes, desires, etc.
Observations are typically more objective statements than opinions.
Facts are information or knowledge.
Action statements are any comments that involve an action, including a potential or past action.
Autobiographical comments involve personal details, stories, etc.
Events are past, present, or future occurrences.
Now to the person listening, all of the above statements will feel like small talk, but they are actually quite different from one another and liable to produce different responses and reactions.
Each category serves a distinct purpose from expressing preferences to sharing knowledge or initiating actions.
There are a few ways to apply this acronym in your own life.
First, use it to help you become more aware of your own conversational tendencies, habits, and biases.
You may not even know that you have a habit of, for example, always making comments that refer to events and never sharing opinions or feelings.
Once you notice this, however,
You give yourself the chance to mix things up a bit and bring more flow and balance to the kind of contributions you make in social situations.
Another way to use this acronym is as a kind of conversational lifeboat.
When you feel stumped for something to say or can sense that the energy and momentum are being lost, quickly consult the acronym and see what elements may be missing.
Many conversations stall because there’s too narrow a focus on too small a thread of conversation.
For example, you may both get trapped in sharing facts and details back and forth and find things quickly becoming dull.
Realizing this, you can add a breath of fresh air by switching to opinions, feelings, or action statements.
Suddenly, switching tack this way can help you shift stuck conversations and drive things along a bit more proactively.
A third way to use Foufei is to help you tailor your comments to fit the unique person you’re talking to.
Being in a sweet spot is a question of deep engagement with this person and this topic right now in this moment.
When your comments are strategic and specific, you quickly allow yourself to engage more deeply and conversations become juicier and more authentic.
For example,
If you have a reason to believe that the interaction is best kept quite superficial, you may deliberately rely more on comments about facts and events.
If you’re in a work context, for example, this will subtly convey a sense of professionalism and composure that will bring a sense of rapport and harmony to the interaction.
Or you may be talking to a fellow parent at the school gates one day and realize
And it’s more appropriate to add comments that are autobiographical or action-based.
Your small talk may revolve around the kids, the activities they’re doing, and what might happen in the future.
In still a third example, let’s say a quick chat with the person you’ve just met on an online dating site, sticking too much to facts, events, or actions may feel a little impersonal.
Here, more comments focusing on feelings and opinions may be required to create that sense of flow.
One final way to use Fuffet is as a kind of diagnostic tool.
In other words, when a conversation isn’t working or flowing well, you can quickly take a step back and become curious about why.
Could it have something to do with a type of comment or statement you’ve just made?
For example, let’s say you’re chatting with a new acquaintance and the conversation is flowing well.
Suddenly, though, there’s a small rupture, an awkward silence, and a few moments of discomfort.
You ask yourself, what happened right before this awkwardness?
What kind of statement seemed to precede the rupture?
taking it further.
Can you notice any ongoing patterns with this person specifically or with people in general?
You may not be able to diagnose a problem using Fouffais alone, but you may spot subtle reasons for an interaction taking a turn.
For example, an awkward silence may consistently follow a statement or comment that is about feelings or opinions.
Noticing this, you decide to stick to other kinds of statements instead and observe that things flow better that way.
Congratulations!
You’ve now learned something important about this person and how they like to communicate.
Or about the shared context and expectations about the kind of interaction you can have.
Those who are naturally good with people can take these subtle shifts and adjustments almost unconsciously and intuitively because they’re able to quickly switch the kind of contribution they make.
They maintain a state of flow and seldom find themselves in awkward spots or outright conflict.
There’s nothing magical about this skill.
It’s simply the ability to remain aware of what you’re doing and the effect it’s having and knowing how to change in real time to achieve a different effect.
Tune into how the person in front of you wants to communicate.
Some people love a nerdy, fact-based conversation about hobbies or current events, or whatever is happening right there in the moment.
Some people want to talk about feelings.
Some people want to reminisce about the past while others are energized by making plans and preparing for events that are yet to happen.
Some people love to keep things abstract and intellectual.
Others want to keep it concrete and straightforward.
conversational flow does not require that both people are the same or that they think and communicate the same.
It only requires the kind of flexibility and willingness to be in the moment.
If the person you are speaking to looks like they are getting bored, you don’t have to change the topic of conversation.
experiment with changing the perspective on that conversation.
For example, you’re talking to someone who doesn’t care about sports, and you notice that introducing this topic immediately creates a kind of mini rupture.
No problem.
Stay on the topic of sports, but change up the way you speak about it.
For example, instead of boring the other person with the game you watched last night, facts, events, you can shift to talking about why you loved it so much, feelings, opinions, or how it’s part of your Sunday tradition at home, autobiographical.
Thinking this way allows you to uncover new angles on an old topic and center the connection and flow rather than dwell too much on the details of the topic itself.
Being flexible, curious, and willing to flow with the other person means you could soon find yourself having a fascinating dialogue about the psychology of the sports lover.
the importance of baseball to the American national identity, or the incredible nuances of the big business behind the game.
Handled correctly, you may find that your conversation with this sports hating person is the most interesting conversation you’ve ever had about sports.
It’s important to recognize that establishing a smooth conversation flow may take time and practice, even if you’ve mastered a trick like the Fufei acronym.
A perfectly smooth flow is seldom guaranteed, especially when talking with people you’re unfamiliar with.
That’s why it’s worth managing expectations and being patient with yourself and with others.
Always keep an open, receptive mindset.
The person in front of you has something interesting to teach you and share with you.
Be curious about what could be and adjust your dialogue in whatever way necessary to help you uncover that gem.
What I like about Fufei is it’s not a script, it’s a diagnostic.
When I catch a conversation going flat, it’s almost always because I’m stuck in one lane all facts, all questions, all me talking about my week.
The acronym just gives you seven other doors to try.
It also works as a rescue tool, not just a style guide.
King calls it a conversational lifeboat.
The moment you feel a conversation stalling, you don’t need a new topic.
You need a new kind of comment on the same topic.
It’s worth keeping the seven categories somewhere in the back of your mind so the lifeboat is actually there when you need it.
And the last piece is the one people skip.
Fufei isn’t one size fits all.
A work conversation can lean on facts and events for a bit of professional polish.
A conversation with another parent at pickup leans autobiographical.
Same seven tools, different mix, depending on who’s in front of you.
One thing I would add, from doing this badly for a long time, you will not get the mix right in the moment, and that’s fine.
The value of fufei isn’t reciting it mid-conversation, it’s noticing afterward, huh, I only ever ask questions.
That awareness is what actually changes next time.
Fufei handles what you say.
The next three pieces come from Improve Your Conversations, and they’re about how you ask, how you listen, and how you stay loose when the conversation goes somewhere you didn’t expect.
King builds this whole book around a comparison to improv comedy.
There’s no script, there should be no agenda, just responding to what’s actually in front of you.
So here’s the first shift.
Most of us think open-ended questions are generous.
We’re giving the other person room to talk.
King argues the opposite.
A broad question dumps work on the other person, and work is what kills Flo.
Here’s how he opens it.
Flowing conversations involve a frictionless back and forth.
This doesn’t happen when you continually ask questions that stop people in their tracks, make them dig deep, and take them out of the present.
Open-ended questions make people work, and you want to make conversation as easy as possible for both parties.
A query like, what do you like to do for fun, has a tremendous impact on the free flow of the conversation.
Unless you recently had an answer prepared for a job interview, there’s a very small chance you’ll be able to answer this in an organized sentence.
Most people, if they answer at all, will say something like, um, I guess I like to go running sometimes, and I watch a lot of movies.
The recipient has to take a mental break, decipher and interpret, then put forth a milk toast answer because it’s a general question that begets a general answer.
Worst of all, when you ask open-ended questions, you put the burden of keeping the conversation going on your partner.
In many cases, they feel that they’re doing all the work.
Eventually, it becomes more of a chore rather than something enjoyable.
When people feel they’re being interrogated, they start resorting to simple one-sentence answers.
The sentences keep getting shorter and shorter until the conversation freezes.
Worse still, the other person might actually feel put on the spot to say something interesting, as though it was purely up to them to come up with some way to save the conversation.
Now, this is the flip side of Fufei’s facts and events lane, honestly.
If your questions are broad, you’re forcing the other person to build the whole answer from scratch.
Specific questions do half the work for them before they even open their mouth.
Second shift, and this one surprised me the first time I read it, you don’t always need a question mark at all.
Here’s what Patrick King has to say.
Sometimes you don’t even have to ask a question.
You can use a leading statement.
A leading statement is one that begs a response and acts like a question.
For example, so I guess that’s the exit.
It is a statement, but it’s actually a question that asks someone to confirm where the exit to a room is.
This is a welcome break from continually asking questions, but it also introduces a very different dynamic to your conversation because statements convey information, whereas questions request information.
To create a leading statement, make an assumption about the other person and say it out loud.
That’s it.
So I guess that’s where the exit is.
You must be really great at tennis.
Sounds like it wasn’t a very fun party.
You must have hated that.
I bet you’re a big foodie.
When you use leading statements, your conversation partner has an easier job.
They can either confirm or deny your supposition and explain their answer.
I bet you’re a big foodie.
Actually, I totally am.
It’s my hobby and I have a food blog.
My favorite cuisine is French.
I bet you’re a big foodie.
Actually, I’m totally not.
Food is just fuel for me.
Why did you say that?
Leading statements serve the same purpose as questions by allowing your conversation partner to answer.
But they do it in ways that are easier, subtler and more conversational than straight out questioning.
They often have the same effect as a question, but are smoother and less like an interview.
Leading statements make interaction and conversation easy for people to engage in because they don’t require massive amounts of thinking and create a great conversational flow.
A really great thing about leading statements is that they invite a little bit of an emotional reaction and not merely a response to the plain, boring facts you’re presenting.
Without too much effort or force, you’re in the realm of more personal, emotional engagement rather than just data exchange.
One of the most common objections to this chapter’s rule is that it’s too much.
It violates people’s sense of privacy.
All of this talk about being specific versus being broad hides the fact that many of us don’t feel comfortable getting specific because we feel it might be too invasive.
We feel that we’re invading someone’s privacy and prying into someone’s personal life too deeply.
This can happen on occasion, but there is such an overreaching fear of this happening that it keeps the majority of us lingering on safe vanilla topics for far longer than we should be.
We use broad and open-ended questions when we meet strangers at networking events, but we use specific questions and leading statements with friends because we’re comfortable with them and don’t feel judgment is just around the corner.
Like many things, the temptation to stay broad and open-ended is an external projection of an internal insecurity regarding conversation.
Very rarely will someone tell you that you’ve gone too far and they will almost always welcome the chance to avoid small talk and speak about more specific details of their lives.
Remember, the overall goal of being specific is to make conversation easy for both people.
If you can accomplish this, others will be far more open with you regardless.
Summary
One of the most common pieces of conversational advice is to just ask broad, open-ended questions, because it supposedly makes people talk endlessly.
This is not good advice.
What you need to do is the exact opposite.
Make things more specific.
The problem with asking open-ended questions is that it often confuses the other person.
They don’t have any context.
They don’t know what kind of answer you’re expecting.
And they normally won’t have a ready-made answer at hand that they can just say out loud.
All of these things forces them to think too much, which takes all the fun out of conversation by making it a chore instead of an enjoyable back and forth that naturally flows forward.
To avoid this, try to take a broad question and break it down into specific questions that are easier to answer.
This reduces how much someone needs to think before answering and eliminates the problem of potentially saying the wrong thing.
Plus, it ensures you get to know them better because they’ll actually give you meaningful answers.
An alternative to asking questions is using leading statements.
The reason this works is it invites an emotional reaction instead of just a fact check.
I bet you’re a big foodie, gets you a story.
Are you into food, gets you a, yeah, kind of, last piece, and it’s less a technique than a mindset.
Specific questions and leading statements both assume you’re paying attention in the moment, not running a mental script.
King goes back to the improv comparison directly here.
Great improv is a result of the creativity in spontaneous situations, and set agendas and outlines put a very low ceiling on that.
Improv comedy performances are, guess what, improvised.
The performers may occasionally work with a set theme that has been decided on beforehand, but there will always be large portions of an improv performance that involve taking direction from the crowd or audience.
They can’t predict what a crowd will give them to work with, so it’s out of necessity that they can’t have a strict agenda or outline.
That’s part of the fun in attending an improv performance.
You feel that you are a part of the outcome and have contributed to the show.
Obviously, there are situations where the performers have to think on their feet as quickly as possible so they don’t get tongue-tied and silent when everyone in the room is waiting.
As an improv performer, you have to process what was said to you, try to project where you want the scene to go, and then predict what others might also say in response.
You have to read people’s body language, try to determine if there is any ulterior message, and actively provide detail that other people can work with.
In a split second, you need to perform a full analysis of the entire scene and spit out words that will enhance the most important aspects of it.
Oh, and you’re in front of a crowd of people, and there’s a team of people on stage waiting on your response.
That might be the very definition of thinking on your feet.
Improv comedy is collaborative in nature, but it’s impossible to know what your teammates are thinking.
How does all of this make you a better conversationalist?
Recall that improv performances and conversations have the exact same goal, a flowing, entertaining interaction.
None of the other three tools work if you’re locked into a script in your head.
Depth over breath.
Leading statements.
Fufei itself.
They all require you to actually be listening to the person in front of you, not waiting for your turn.
So, four tools.
One underlying skill.
Fufei gives you the variety so you’re never stuck in one lane.
Specific questions and leading statements make it easier for the other person to actually respond and underneath all of it.
You have to be flexible enough to drop the plan.
Follow the conversation wherever it actually goes.
Now if you want more, small talk that doesn’t suck has the rest of this chapter, and improve your conversation goes deep on over a dozen more improv-based techniques like these three, both by Patrick King.
And there’s more from him across this channel every week.